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WELCOME TO THE FOOD GROUP - This group was started in an attempt to present well-researched and FACT-based information on the amazingly complicated and confusing issue of feeding our dogs. There are also many issues we would like to explore. We thought it would be helpful to put all of these questions, information, and feedback into one place here on DK where everyone can find it, contribute to it, ask questions, and learn together.
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Wellness New Packaging

Started by Britni Rampton. Last reply by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle 2 hours ago. 12 Replies

It looks like Wellness is changing the "look" of their bag. Our local retailer told us that Wellness Simple is now in a  shiny new reflective bag that says "Wellness Complete Health, limited…Continue

Food Suggestions?

Started by Samantha Fine. Last reply by Samantha Fine yesterday. 7 Replies

Hey Guys! I need your help/experience from your doods. Steve has always been on TOW, the breeder we got him from said to NEVER give him chicken because they don't process it well??? (Not sure how…Continue

Taurine Deficiency

Started by Lucy & AnnaBelle's Mom. Last reply by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle on Friday. 20 Replies

Saw this in Doodle Family on FB and wanted the experts opinion.Grain-Free Feeders - PLEASE READ:We all know how difficult it is to make decisions regarding diet for our pets. I am sharing this…Continue

Nestle in talks to buy Champion Brands

Started by Samina, Snickers & Duke. Last reply by Samina, Snickers & Duke on Thursday. 4 Replies

https://www.veterinarypracticenews.com/nestle-in-talks-buy-champion-petfoods/ I just received an email from…Continue

Change food or not?

Started by Stacy. Last reply by Stacy on Wednesday. 18 Replies

I can't decide if I should change Maggie's food or not. She's currently still on Nature's Variety Instinct Raw Boost Beef. And Katie is on Fromm Four Star (chicken ala veg at the moment) I've…Continue

Changing of Food Suggestions

Started by Paula Shawber. Last reply by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle on Wednesday. 13 Replies

Looking to change Roxy's food so that I can purchase locally.  She is currently eating Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream Puppy Formula Grain-Free Dry Food.  She hasn't had any issues with it at…Continue

Meal Timing/Meal Refusal

Started by Mcct. Last reply by Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie on Wednesday. 5 Replies

Karen, you gave me such good advice about my puppy's diarrhea and it worked. I'm wondering if you can help answer my current food question. My healthy 6 month old ALD now often refuses her breakfast…Continue

Charlie's Tummy Troubles

Started by Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie. Last reply by Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie Jul 13. 9 Replies

Charlie the happy-go-lucky doodle, really is a bundle of nerves.  Who would have thought!? …Continue

Puppy with Diarrhea

Started by Mcct. Last reply by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle Jul 13. 24 Replies

Hi all. I'm looking for advice about my 5 month old australian labradoodle (she's 35 lbs, will get to be about 45, I'm guessing). She has had several bouts of bad diarrhea that I'm trying to figure…Continue

Fresh Delivered Food?

Started by Maddie. Last reply by Maddie Jul 11. 2 Replies

Hi everyone, after lots of research and decision, my family decided to get a goldendoodle puppy end of this month! This is my first post and first dog, so let me know if you have any suggestions.…Continue

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Comment by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle yesterday

I've never personally used it; I think it's given once a day; the package should tell you. The main thing is that you must not give it within two hours of the Augmentin, and you must continue it for a week or two after the Augmentin is finished.

Comment by Lindsey Holt yesterday

How often to give proviable if giving augmentin twice daily for 14 days?

Comment by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle on July 13, 2018 at 10:17am

Please read through this discussion, it should help out your mind at rest:
And please ignore any info about diet or health that you see on FB; it is all flat out wrong. 
https://www.doodlekisses.com/group/thefoodgroup/forum/topics/taurin...

Comment by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle on July 13, 2018 at 10:14am

As usual, the info on Facebook is flat out wrong. The FDA never looks into anything related to dog food, lol. There have been some studies on how diet relates to DCM in dogs, specifically Golden Retrievers, done through researchers are The Morris Foundation; no links to any type of food or diet have been found so far. The misinformation about this on Facebook is greater than any I have ever seen on any dog-related topic. PLEASE IGNORE ANY FOOD OR HEATH RELATED INFO YOU SEE POSTED ON FACEBOOK. Chances are really good it's wrong.
We have had several discussions about this here in TFG, the main forum, and the Health group. 
Bottom line is that it's just silly and illogical for anyone to think that an absence of grain could have anything to do with taurine deficiency; taurine is an amino acid made by the body from other amino acids. And all of those amino acids come from animal proteins, not grains. Even if you don't know anything about nutriton science or biochemistry, common sense tells us that meat eating animals the world over do not eat grains, and they are not dropping dead from their diets, lol. What about all the raw feeders whose dogs eat no grains or plant foods whatsoever??? Are their dogs being diagnosed with DCM??? 
Relax and do not change your dog's diet. 

Comment by Karin Frydman on July 13, 2018 at 9:55am

I just saw on Facebook that the FDA is looking into grain free dog food as a cause of DCM a heart disease in dogs. Has anyone heard of this? I feed Zoe Fromm Heartland Gold, and was wondering if I should switch to Fromm Gold. Thanks.

Karin

Comment by Stacy on June 23, 2018 at 8:05am

Thank you for reminding us of the yogurt, Karen. I need to do more of this. I have spoiled Maggie. She won't eat without a treat on her food. I weaned her down to just a tiny taste of canned on her kibble and then we ran out and now I'm putting a few crumbs of pure bites in there. It doesn't have to be much, but she has me trained that there has to be something or she just sits there and looks at me. I know it's my own fault, but... yogurt would be a good choice! 

Comment by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle on June 23, 2018 at 8:01am

Regarding yogurt, though, I do wish more people took advantage of the benefits of yogurt with their dogs. I see so many people giving their dogs ice cream or other sweet cake-type "treats" for special occasions, often homemade. While these won't cause harm if given occasionally, why not give a treat that has benefits? I think we anthropomorphize in this regard: we think sweet in the form of ice cream, cake, cookies, etc are delicious, so we assume our dogs will too. But if they never have it, they absolutely do not crave it, and I don't think dogs have "sweet tooths" like humans do. I have found that most dogs absolutely love yogurt, and many of them love fruit as well. My Jasper goes crazy for strawberries! He whines and begs to the point of obnoxiousness, and he feels almost as strongly about blueberries. So most nights, he gets a spoonful of plain nonfat Greek yogurt with a few little pieces of strawberry or a few blueberries mixed in. He thinks he is getting a wonderful dessert, and in fact he is getting one that is filled with beneficial gut flora and some good fiber from the fruit to boot. Win-win. 

Comment by Karen, Jasper and Jackdoodle on June 22, 2018 at 4:21pm

 Albert Jergens, DVM, MS, PhD did the $100,000 Iowa State 2012 study on the use of VSL#3 probiotics in dogs with IBD, and the results showed that the use of this particular human probiotic was so effective, it made it possible to reduce the dosages of medications and even eliminate medications in these dogs while still maintaining remission. From an anecdotal standpoint, i can tell you that was my experience with Jack as well. 
VSL#3 can be given without any foods, dairy or otherwise, and does not have an enteric coating. In fact, they make a powder form for humans. 
Of course, all of this may be in keeping with " way #2 is over abundance of probiotic hoping some survive" but i do believe there is more to it. 
VSL#contains 112.5 billion live cultures per dose. (One capsule) It contains 3 different strains of Bifidobacterium and 4 different strains of Lactobacillus. It also contains one strain of streptococcus.

Comment by c zoomer on June 22, 2018 at 4:01pm

Note on probiotics from Livestrong website (crediting the Sunday Times 2008).  Only two of the bacteria are known to survive stomach acid and reach the intestine.  The lactobacillus and bifidobacteria.  It's suggested that you put the probiotic into yogurt to buffer the stomach acid.  Dogs really like yogurt, so it's a win-win. 

Fortiflora on the other hand boasts that by putting large amounts of the probiotic "Enterococcus faecium SF68 to provide shelf stability and to arrive alive in the intestinal tract."  So way #2 is over abundance of probiotic hoping some survive :)

Good article.  4 points.  1. when to use--Probiotics are used to treat such maladies as infectious diarrhea, irritable bowel syndrome, Crohn's disease, vaginal infections and skin infections. 

2. U.K. food microbiologist Glenn Gibson, quoted in a 2008 story in "The Sunday Times," only highly resistant bacteria such as lactobacillus and bifidobacteria can survive stomach acid. Other types of bacteria, including many probiotics, are likely to be destroyed by stomach acid.

3. because dairy products can buffer the stomach acid, thus increasing the chances that the probiotic bacteria will survive the journey and make it into the intestine.

4. If the supplement capsules have a special enteric coating.

I'm going to try it with yogurt :)

Comment by c zoomer on June 22, 2018 at 3:31pm

I give Dinah some fish oil before she goes to the groomers so it will coat her stomach from the acid she produces when scared.  It helps.  When I bathed her for the first time I was a nervous wreck and the very high treat value saved the day.(because as bad as I was, she knew I wasn't punishing her if I was giving great treats).  At puppy school the treats were non-stop.  I should have kept it up when taking her for walks, I regret not doing it. 

 

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