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Coat types

Doodles come in three main coat types. Wool, fleece and hair. If you consider a woolly wool coat to be at one end of a scale and shedding coarse hair coats to be at the other end, your doodle could have a coat anywhere in-between. Not only that...it could be a combination of more than one type. Coats can also be very curly, somewhat curly, spiral curls, wavy or quite straight.

Hint for maintaining your favourite look.

You will find lots of pictures on this site of great looking doodles. Use them to take to your groomer to show what look you like or use them to follow for home grooming.


Coat Change from Puppy to Adult
Somewhere between 8 and 12 months doodles start growing their adult coats. Matte time! Since they don't shed, you need to comb the puppy coat out. This takes quite a bit of dedication and this stage can go on for several months. If you let your puppy mat at this time and resort to shaving, you STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM. You cannot shave it away. At some point, you must comb that puppy coat out. To make this stage easier, scissor the coat to about 2 inches in length so there is less to tangle. A seriously good way to reduce brushing is to buy a high speed blower. It produces cool air at high volume and really helps clean and untangle the coat.

Combing your doodle.
Use a steel comb. Start from one foot and brush..yes brush with a brush..the hair up. Then  start down at the foot again and brush down in layers, making sure to always get to see the skin in the area you are working on before you go on. After about and inch or two, comb where you brushed. If the comb won't go thru, start again. Work thru the whole coat in this fashion.
Make sure you hit all the areas.
inside, outside and back and front of legs
upper and lower chest
sides, back and under tail
top of head and neck all the way around
under ears, chin and face
If a wool dog is very matted, it can take 10 hours to demat. If you have a fleece coat that is in good shape, it should take an hour or less to brush and comb the whole dog thoroughly.
Worst trouble spots: in front of hind legs, armpits, under tail and neck

To Do List for regular maintenance.
1. brush and comb twice a week or when ever you feel mattes ..dampen after brushing
These things to be done every 4 to 6 weeks
2. trim hair from between eyes as required to keep it from poking into the eyes
3. shave belly
4. trim hair from around anus and on male or female parts to prevent messy mattes that can get infected from bacteria
5. clip nails
6. trim feet ...inside of feet, around toes and trim length so it just barely touches the ground.
7. trim hair above eyes so it does not obstruct sight
8. pull hair from inside ears and clean with ear cleaning solution
9. shave hair from base of ear to increase airflow into the ear 

Links to Grooming Information from this forum. 

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How to trim feet
You can trim feet with scissors or clippers. I prefer to use a combination of both. I first cup the dog's foot in my hand so the bottom is visible and keeping my scissors flat to the bottom of the foot, I trim all hair sticking beyond the foot. Next I take my clipper with a number 10 or 40 and trim inside between the large pad the the small toe pads. From the top of the foot looking down, I pull a hair back from toes and scissor hair from around nails and between toes. You can to this with a clipper too and make 'poodle toes'...not to be confused at all with poodle feet. You want the foot to have lots of volume from the top, but look clean underneath.

Discussion Forum

Toenails

Started by Stacy. Last reply by Carolyn Shusterman Jul 22. 4 Replies

Matting Around Ears

Started by Paula Shawber. Last reply by Paula Shawber Jul 24. 6 Replies

Grooming Table

Started by Haley, Yeti, and Phin. Last reply by Melissa Jul 13. 14 Replies

Best Length for no mats - not shaved

Started by Kristen. Last reply by Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie Jul 13. 7 Replies

Groomer in DC?

Started by Josh Adams. Last reply by Rachel and Briar May 9. 2 Replies

blow dryers

Started by Haley, Yeti, and Phin. Last reply by Lori Rahn May 21. 3 Replies

Bathing your big doodles at home

Started by J and Luna. Last reply by J and Luna Apr 19. 24 Replies

Alternative to Cowboy Magic?

Started by Josh Adams. Last reply by Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie Mar 28. 9 Replies

Shear set for home grooming

Started by Marcia P Keller. Last reply by Marcia P Keller Mar 24. 8 Replies

Clippers seem to get bogged down

Started by Robin Richardson. Last reply by Robin Richardson Mar 23. 8 Replies

What tools?

Started by AliandShooter. Last reply by Jen Mar 22. 2 Replies

Advice for grooming my scruffy 4 month old.

Started by Denise Mabie. Last reply by Denise Mabie Mar 22. 2 Replies

When to get first cut?

Started by AliandShooter. Last reply by Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie Mar 15. 3 Replies

Grooming tools for coat type

Started by Denise Mabie. Last reply by Barbara & Zoey Mar 13. 13 Replies

Advice for Murphy’s First Cut

Started by Hannah. Last reply by AliandShooter Apr 5. 2 Replies

Hair from ears

Started by Nga and Cinni. Last reply by Paula Shawber Jun 24. 7 Replies

drying big doodles

Started by Stacy. Last reply by Kate C Pappas Apr 19. 16 Replies

Naples, Florida, and Cape Cod (Orleans) Groomer

Started by Laurie, Wally & Charlotte Oct 16, 2017. 0 Replies

Blade sharpening

Started by Karen&Don. Last reply by Reenieado Mar 23. 1 Reply

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Comment by Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie on May 25, 2018 at 12:04pm

Thanks for posting this.  Enlightening for those that don't know and a good reminder for those that do.

Comment by c zoomer on May 24, 2018 at 3:03pm

News

pH level of a dog’s epidermis…Never use human products on pets!

Did you know that baby shampoo is 150 times too acidic for a dog’s epidermis?

We recently found an interesting article about the pH level of dog’s skin. We know it’s common for people to bathe their dogs with dish soap or baby shampoo, and do “skunk baths” with products like baking soda, mouthwash, vinegar etc.

There is evidence that these simple products can severely irritate dog’s skin, because dog’s skin has a different pH level and thickness compared to ours:

 pH level in pets vs humans:

– Pets 7.0-7.52
– Humans 5.2-5.5

The dog’s skin is the most alkaline of all species making it a perfect breeding ground for bacteria (aka skin infections) if the pH is disrupted. If this happens, inflammation and infection can occur due to over-drying and eroding of the epidermis (the outermost layer of the skin). A dog’s epidermis is only 8-10 cell layers thick, whereas human’s are 18-20 cell layers thick! The dog’s skin is thicker overall, but the epidermis is very thin and susceptible to bacteria if it is stripped away with improper ingredients that are not pH balanced for their skin.

Not everyone knows that a very alkaline product can do just as much damage as a very acidic product. Just as a very acidic product to humans like sulfuric acid would basically burn away human epidermis, very alkaline products such as Lye, can produce inflammation or even chemical burns on human epidermis. The same thing applies to a dog’s epidermis.

Here are some examples of pH levels of products some people use on dogs:

– Ivory dish soap pH 9.5
– Johnson and Johnson baby shampoo pH 5.5
– Baking Soda pH 8.3
– Vinegar pH 2.2
– Scope pH 5.5
– Listerine pH 4.2


Comment by c zoomer on May 24, 2018 at 3:00pm

hen you move on the pH scale from one number to another, it indicates a change of 10 times 10, or a 100 fold change. For example, if you went from 7 to 5, that is 200 times more acidic, or from 7 to 9, that is 200 times more alkaline.

This means that dish soap is approximately 250 times more alkaline to a dog’s epidermis.

Baby shampoo is approx. 150 times more acidic to a dog’s epidermis.

Baking soda is approx. 130 times more alkaline to a dog’s epidermis.

Vinegar is approx. 500 times more acidic to a dog’s epidermis.

Scope mouthwash is approx. 200 times more acidic to a dog’s epidermis.

Human products should NEVER be used on a pet. Pet products are specifically formulated to be pH balanced for their skin as to not cause irritation.

 

Source: http://www.epi-pet.com/Dish%20Soap%20and%20the%20Companion%20Animal

Comment by c zoomer on March 6, 2018 at 9:45am

Has anyone allowed the hair above the eyes to be long enough to put in a top knot?  I'm looking for solutions to keep eyes hair free.

what about using a human tiny beard trimmer close to the eye area?  I'm concerned about her constant wiggling and jerking away when using scissors.

thanks to all,

Comment by Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie on September 3, 2017 at 6:47pm

Yes, yes he does.  And, if he doesn't actually have a turn being brushed, it is obvious that he feels slighted.  Go figure.

Comment by c zoomer on September 2, 2017 at 8:35am

"He reappears, however, if I brush the other doodles."  I wonder if in Doodle-think Ned is "safe" when the others are under the gun (brush).


Comment by Nancy, Ned, Clancy, and Charlie on September 1, 2017 at 7:06pm

Lots of progress, c.  Ned hates to be groomed.  As soon as the brush is in my hand, he disappears.  He reappears, however, if I brush the other doodles.

Comment by Bonnie and Kona on September 1, 2017 at 6:36pm

c zoomer, Congratulations! Baby steps. ;o)

Comment by c zoomer on September 1, 2017 at 6:23pm
The power of prayer. This afternoon dinah cuddled up and I removed her collar, and she allowed me to work on the mats under the collar. She was content to lie there while I expanded to other areas, but the ears need the detangler and she wasn't keen on my trying, but did allow a little bit.
Comment by c zoomer on September 1, 2017 at 5:35am
I recently acquired a grooming arm, but hate using it as there's no place to use it except the kitchen..and the fuzz is so fine it will be everywhere. Saving it for "just in case".
 

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