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Tired of being made to feel guilty
At our vet's request, we decided to breed Caeleach and Seamus. We were going to have both fixed, but our vet wanted a puppy, from our dogs, and their ARE no F1b Labradoodles in all of Western NC. The only one we've seen was the rescue in Waynesville.
Anyway, we think the breeding took. Now, just about everyone we know harps on the number of puppies, in rescue. yes, I know that!
However, we have more people that want our puppies than there will be puppies. The vet said that Caeleach' and Seamus are wonderfully healthy and have terrific temperements, so he wanted to buy a puppy, from us. I couldn't think of a better recommendation, for breeding.
Our contract will have a "take back" option. If the people do not want the dog, at any time, I will gladly take it back. Also, we will require that all of our families take their puppies to obedience.
Just wanted to vent. I am a firm believer in spay/neuter and don't need the lectures!
Anyway, we think the breeding took. Now, just about everyone we know harps on the number of puppies, in rescue. yes, I know that!
However, we have more people that want our puppies than there will be puppies. The vet said that Caeleach' and Seamus are wonderfully healthy and have terrific temperements, so he wanted to buy a puppy, from us. I couldn't think of a better recommendation, for breeding.
Our contract will have a "take back" option. If the people do not want the dog, at any time, I will gladly take it back. Also, we will require that all of our families take their puppies to obedience.
Just wanted to vent. I am a firm believer in spay/neuter and don't need the lectures!
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Permalink Reply by Sherry Rowe on -
I understand very well what the issue is. It's crystal clear. My problem is the way you relay your point of view.
Sure, you can speak louder and fighter harder, and you will simply lose more of your audience. Simple human psychology is at work here. If someone is coming at you with a knife, what are you going to do? You're going to either A) get a knife and fight back or B) run away. There is no in between. If you want them to hear your message, it must be delivered in a calm and respectful manner. One way of looking at it is: Every time you lose your cool, a doodle pays the price. Either directly or indirectly...doesn't matter, but every single time you put somebody off with the way you deliver your message, the doodles you're trying to help suffer for it.
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Permalink Reply by Jeannine on -
Thank you for your opinion.
I will be 63 years of age soon, and all my life I try to be nice and kind to people, not to disturb of go against their opinion not to hurt anybody. The knife, my dear Sherry, I had to fight against more time that you even can't imagine. I did run, fight and the result I was the one who got hurt and hurt and again. So please do not tell me that not expressing my opinion is not right. I did do or say anything to attack anybody, I just express my opinion and because it is not yours or the way you wanted to be you are the one who gave me shit, by the way your own expression.
So, no it is not worth to express ourselves here because only your or you pair have the right to say what ever you want and us who do not agree have the only choice of shutting up.
So yes, thank you for your opinion.
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Permalink Reply by Gail Notestine on -
Guys,
thank you for reminding me of WHY I removed the forum from MY site.
Outta here!
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Permalink Reply by LuvMyAbby&Kaela on -
Well that is not right either Gail!! You put out the statement that you were breeding your dogs because obviously you felt you wanted the attention/advice/opinions/blessings whatever your reason was to post what you did. Then you DIS the whole forum? Not cool at all.
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Permalink Reply by Lorraine Bromley on -
I would just like to say that I to some degree feel guilt and shame for buying a dog, period. I never thought I would purchase a commodity that is widely available. I did it for purely greedy selfish reasons. I still love my shelter dog and her sister we had to rehome (she is old and happy too) I loved my friends home made mistake pups that we had until they were stolen from our property (they looked like purebred labs)
I would never breed my new baby boy and he was fixed as soon as he was big enough even though he had genetic testing of his parents.
I would never breed my other dogs even though they had great temperments and were adorable in their uniqueness, something purebred breeds seem to lack in looks.
I needed to find the best breeder for my golden doodle AFTER I made the decision to buy a golden doodle . I appreciate that I could find a breeder that had genetic testing of the parents and that the parents were pure bred so I knew what I was getting. I was also happy that the breeder has had a breed standard with her golden doodles that I wanted. I also was happy that based on the past litters our doodle will LIKELY be non to low shedding.
I would not go to the local pet store to buy their doodles at a lot greater savings not knowing any history of them.
I don't like the idea of anyone breeding.
BUT here I am selfish and greedy and that is the truth like it or not
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Permalink Reply by Stella on -
Gail, it is such a shame that your vet pushed you into breeding your two dogs when you went to him to get them neutered. I agree with the other posts, that is totally unethical and he should be reported. Whatever you decide to do with your dogs is your choice, and I wish you luck if they do end up having puppies. But, professional breeders are breeders for a reason, they often invest many years of time and money to find the right dogs to breed, that have a proven health and temperament history, this is why they have the ability to offer a health gurantee etc etc. There are plenty of good breeders producing F1b labradoodles throughout the US and Canada, many of whom will fly a puppy to the right owner. Your vet and your friends only have to look on Doodlekisses to find them!
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Permalink Reply by Maryann,Roo and Tigger on -
Okay, I think I will give it one more try. We have too many dogs (cats, humans, living things) that are not wanted or well cared for. There are several driving factors to this social truth: greed (puppy mills), selfishness (puppies, children aging parents, whatever, take away from the caregiver's personal time), poor choices made by uniformed, poorly educated ( educated in how much care a living thing requires) and a general growing lack for respect of life. Gail has shown herself to be a compassionate nuturer with dogs, parrots and humans. We have no reason to expect she will be otherwise with ONE litter of puppies. She has joined DoodleKisses to be a member of a doodle community and she trusted with us with what she admitted was perhaps not the most well thougt out decision of her life. However, she clearly intends to make this decision have the best possible consequences, It is not any more likely that one of these puppies will end up in a rescue than a puppy from a "responsible" (one who did the appropriate testing, and had a long planned and debated mating). I, for one, have made my share of less than excellent decisions. The right thing to do is to own up them (as Gail has) and learn from them (she intends to neuter after one litter or if the first did not take). We would all do much more good sending as little as $1 a month to local shelter or a letter to the editor of a local newsaper ,educating about signs of a puppy mill or the benefits of adopting from a shelter, than we are doing with all this with all this bickering. We all agree on the basics, too many homeless dogs, too many feckless owner, Responsible breeding takes genetics into account. Let's give it a rest and welcome Gail back to our DK community
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