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Thanks for posting. I think a very important one is if they seem needy. If something seems "off" with their personality, call the vet!
Permalink Reply by F, Calla & Luca on August 1, 2012 at 12:08pm Thanks for the info.
Permalink Reply by Lisa and Daisy Doodle on August 1, 2012 at 1:48pm Thank you for this information/posting. I ofter wonder how I would know if not obvious.
Permalink Reply by Becka on August 1, 2012 at 2:05pm I would definitely think something was wrong with Sadie if she was meowing constantly! ;)
In all serious, though, this is important information. Thanks for posting it!
Permalink Reply by Karen & Jackdoodle on August 1, 2012 at 2:53pm I just read an article in the Morris Foundation newsletter on this subject, and all the studies that are being done on how to recognize when various types of animals are in pain . In the wild, an animal who is injured or in pain is often vulnerable to being left behind by the pack or even attacked. He's a liability. So instinctively, dogs will often hide it when they have an injury or something is hurting them. This instinct is certainly strong in Jackdoodle, and it's making life very challenging.
I think the most important thing is to know your dog. Behavioral changes can often signal a physical problem.
Permalink Reply by Christine & Camus on August 1, 2012 at 3:23pm Thank you Pam.
Permalink Reply by Adrianne Matzkin on August 1, 2012 at 7:27pm thanks to posting this! I learned something new - linked to that article is this one. I knew all but the avocado. Just made that announcement to the family.
.everydayhealth.com/pet-health/dangerous-foods-for-your-p...
Thanks for that Link Adrianne. I didnt know about Avacado either.
I Also Didnt know about The Hydrangea flower...And a few of the fruit pits & Mustard seeds.
Permalink Reply by Karen & Jackdoodle on August 2, 2012 at 6:16am We have the whole list in the Danger Group, all the plants, foods, and other subtances that can be toxic to dogs, and it's kept updated. The Food Group also has discussions on the foods, including avocado, chocolate, garlic, etc. The link Adrianne provided is not entirely accurate.
The fruit of the avocado is not usually toxic, it's the stems and leaves of the plants, and the seed. Also, it's only the Guatemalan variety that causes a problem. From the AvoDerm website:
"Concern has been expressed by the ASPCA about the consumption of the leaves, fruit, bark, and stems from the avocado tree, with the exception of the avocado fruit which is used for the oil and meal; none of these parts are factors in any of the AvoDerm® pet products formulations and we have no indication that avocado oil and meal as used in AvoDerm® are toxic, poisonous, harmful or bad for your dogs or cats diet.
Dr. Art Craigmill, UC Davis, Professor and Extension Specialist in Environmental Toxicology has said that his studies and other research in the United States and Australia have shown that the problem of toxicity is in the leaves and the pit of the Guatemalan variety; the avocado meat of the fruit and oils have not been shown to be toxic. AvoDerm pet products do not utilize any Guatemalan variety avocados, nor do we use any leaves or pits of any variety of avocados for our avocado meal and oil."
That's been discussed for years in our DK Food group.
The problem with chocolate is not allergies. It's theobromine, which is an alkaloid in the cacao plant and is toxic to dogs; but it's also dose related, and the darker the chocolate, the more theobromine there is and the more toxic it is. That's why many dogs have eaten some milk chocolate and been fine, while a good amount of baking chocolate has killed other dogs. It's the theobromine in cocoa mulch that has killed dogs.
Garlic is perfectly fine in small amounts, and is included in many dog treats and premium foods.
thanks for that info Karen
Permalink Reply by F, Calla & Luca on August 2, 2012 at 8:04am True true, Karen. And little dogs eating a lot of dark chocolate are lucky to live through it. And the same goes for cocoa hull mulch. I'm also glad you cleared up the avocado information, not that I've ever fed my dogs avocado.
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